Journal Entry #8

Respond to “Starting With What Others Say” from They Say/I Say

Finding an author’s perspective can be difficult. It essential that authors get across their point and maybe even why they hold that opinion. This isn’t true in all writing of course because sometimes there is no point to be disputed, but nevertheless, the main idea of an author’s work should be clear to the reader. This also is important from a writer’s perspective. They way we portray ourselves is solely out of how well we come across as a writer. Specifically, when we reference one another that’s when it’s important to step back and recognize what they say before what I say. Authors Cathy Birkenstein and Gerald Graff speak briefly about what it is to reference they before referencing your own opinion, “remember that you are entering a conversation and therefore need to start with ‘what others are saying’ as the title of this chapter recommends, and then introduce your own ideas as a response. Specifically, we suggest that you summarize what ‘they say’ as soon as you can in your text,” (Birkenstein and Graff 21) It seems so simple, yet it can be very complicated to thoroughly understand how to introduce them before you introduce your own solid opinion. Birkenstein and Graff go on to say, “After summarizing the ideas you are responding to at the outset, it’s very important to continue to keep those ideas in view.” (Birkenstein and Graff 27) Through argumentative or informative essays it’s essential to keep in mind what the author you’re referencing has as an overall opinion and how that is going to credit your own. All in all, Birkenstein and Graff provide many options on how to introduce the they in your essays on a situational basis. I personally have never really struggled with speaking about what they say, but I also haven’t had the most of the experience with writing academically in that context. These examples give me a solid view of what to expect when writing in many different outlets.

Journal Entry #7

What global comments/suggestions did you find the best from your peers?

Where were the best global comments/suggestions you offered your peers?

What important feedback/discussion point weren’t captured on the page that came up during your discussion? Be specific and reference your peers and their papers. You may benefit from looking back over the essays you peer reviewed.

What did you wish had come up looking back over your peer review comments

The global comments and suggestions that helped me the most were surrounding the process of connecting my father’s memories and experience within his own family to my own experience as an only child. The members in my group noticed that it was a very abrupt change moving from my father’s experience growing up on my own and I’m lacking the contrast of the two that still connects to my overall thesis.

I believe that the best comments I offered my peers were involving their these. I noticed that there was so much meaning and significance relating to one dish throughout the paper that wasn’t being displayed in the intro paragraph of their essays. I think that going back into their essays and pulling out those juicy emotional ties to the dish and trying to mold that into a thesis is an important aspect of what this paper entails.

 

I think a few important things came up during group discussion than they did on paper. Specifically, on Kyle Getty’s paper, I recognized that he had included a lot of humor from his grandmother which resonated well with me as the reader and I suggested that going back through his essay and including that emotion more would strengthen his paper and the emotional ties with the reader. We also talked a lot about voice. Between Madelyn Hayes, Breana Hogan and Kyle Getty, I noticed that there sometimes lacked a voice that takes an essay from informational to heartwarming. I feel like the common agreement between all of us is that we could easily go back into our papers and read them to ourselves and recognize where we need more voice.

 

Although I feel as if I did a good job at being thorough throughout my peer edits, if I were to go back I’d include more annotations regarding phrasing and grammar because as much as content is important, so are the structural aspects of the essay. If I had left more comments regarding structure it might have been easier to apply to strengthened the overall essay.

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